Coffee 1:42 Mon Feb 6
Auschwitz
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Anyone on here been? What were your impressions?
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Northern Sold
1:43 Mon Feb 6
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Could have done with some flowery curtains I suppose...
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cornish
1:46 Mon Feb 6
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Somewhere I have always wanted to go,mans inhumanity to man.
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weststandboy
1:51 Mon Feb 6
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Ive been - truly chilling and the whole area seems to reflect that, even the town itself.
If you're thinking of going the best tip is at the main large barracks camp go straight to the back of the site where the gas chambers were and work forward from there as you'll avoid crowds and queues more easily as they'll all be coming in the opposite direction.
Also stay in Krakow and you can visit the schindlers list camp site too.
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:56 Mon Feb 6
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I've always wanted to go
My great Uncle died there
Fell out a watch tower
the old us are the not so good uns
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collyrob
2:02 Mon Feb 6
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I witnessed ROY KEANE cry when I was there.
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Kearley
2:03 Mon Feb 6
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Because his side lost the war?
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Vexed
2:04 Mon Feb 6
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collyrob 2:02 Mon Feb 6
Probably clocked your ugly missus dribbling in her wheelchair.
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Eggbert Nobacon
2:07 Mon Feb 6
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Reply collyrob 2:02 Mon Feb 6
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I witnessed ROY KEANE cry when I was there.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1538969/Ireland-welcomed-Hitlers-henchmen.html
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Northern Sold
2:17 Mon Feb 6
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Decent film out at the moment `Denial' all about David Irving.... brilliantly played by Timothy Spall... lots and lots about Auschwitz in it funnily enough....
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On The Ball
2:19 Mon Feb 6
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Went a couple of years ago. I didn't find it as chilling as I expected - I found Auschwitz to be a bit sanitised; it felt clean, almost like it was a reconstruction. I'm not sure whether that's just me - I was with a Jewish girl who was feeling all sorts of auras and other nonsense. The interiors were better - the piles of glasses, shoes, hair etc was quite something.
However, Birkenau was a different story. Walking along the platform, realising that for the people who did that walk for real, their lives ended just a few minutes later just a short walk further - that was quite sobering. There's so much missing there but it felt more 'real' to me.
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bovril
2:29 Mon Feb 6
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Never been to Auschwitz but about 3 years ago, I did visit Nuremberg (Zeppelin field) where Mr H held most of his political rallies. The place still stands and when I was there, I saw groups of Jewish people gathered on the steps where Hitler stood, praying and crying. Was a little moving!
You get the feeing that Germany is ashamed and embarrassed by the war but they wont flatten the reminders of the Nazi atrocities.
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Bungo
2:33 Mon Feb 6
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My father-in law was a medical student at the end of WWII and volunteered to be with the first wave of British troops that went in to liberate Belsen.
Can't begin to relate his stories here but suffice to say that even decades later, he woke up every morning with the smell of Belsen in his nostrils.
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collyrob
2:33 Mon Feb 6
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Vexed
My birds a worldie mate.
Do you keep your toupee on when your out noncing?
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Alwaysaniron
3:16 Mon Feb 6
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Did a thread on this a couple of years ago Coffee. In my view the most important museum anywhere in the world. Very harrowing and you can't help but me moved to tears. Personally I think all our teenage kids should have a visit here as part of their curriculum.
Poland is a fab country Krakow is a fantastic city and the Salt Mines are sensational.
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eastham75
3:30 Mon Feb 6
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Yes I went in December with the Wife,
had a weekend in Krakow, its one of those places I think you have to see to get the real Scale of it all. we went in a small group and the Bus ride back to Krakow was silent.
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violator
3:36 Mon Feb 6
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Didn't make it when we went to Krakow, went to Schindler's factory though, and the secret pharmacy. Did get out to Dachau when I was in Munich though, thing that struck me was that the place was full of those massive trees and I never saw or heard a single bird in any of them, very eerie place.
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nychammer
3:41 Mon Feb 6
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I found it a sobering and profound experience. The silence there is deafening. You can get a train there directly from krakow, which by the way is a beautiful city to visit for a long summer weekend. Probably been right ruined by the stag and hen party scene by now though I imagine.
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On The Ball
4:16 Mon Feb 6
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I think they've stopped the DIRECT train....
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gph
4:52 Mon Feb 6
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Never been, never want to go.
Sachsenhausen was bad enough, and that was only a concentration camp, not an extermination camp - though plenty were exterminated there. They just used ad hoc methods, like machine gunfire
Interesting to note its debt to Jeremy Bentham, though... he originally invented the panopticon prison system, on which the camp is based
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